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Post by SPLASH on Jun 13, 2011 3:49:49 GMT -5
Troy mentioned this movie awhile back on this site and then I've read many posts on a gardening forum I am on. Don't know how long it will last, but I got word that the entire movie was on youtube for free. I'm going to put the link here. Take a break from playing on the internet or watching crappy tv and watch this movie. It's an hour and a half long and I've never personally seen a movie or tv show that made me feel disgusted, unsafe, outraged etc. This will definitely change the way you view our food. youtu.be/gVFKEWL6DVU
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Post by OJ (Original Junkie). on Jun 13, 2011 20:36:06 GMT -5
I told you, it's a pretty eye opening watch. I watched it on netflix if anyone has that.
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Post by SPLASH on Jun 14, 2011 10:39:11 GMT -5
So many points stood out. The chickens that are pumped so full of chemicals to grow larger breasts that they can't walk more than a couple of steps at a time. The companies keeping the chicken farmers in debt. The sick cows being pushed to slaughter with a forklift. The company that developed the soy bean seed that can handle roundup and now makes sure every farmer uses it by keeping them in court until they run out of money. That guy from Polyface farms that is doing it right has more videos on youtube, I knew of him from the gardening forums before I saw this movie. It truely is an eye opener. I think many people are affraid to watch the movie or think it's just "hippy bs" like I did. Looking for a local organic chicken farmer now.
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Post by OJ (Original Junkie). on Jun 14, 2011 21:12:11 GMT -5
Don't be surprised when you eat your first farm raised chicken and it tastes nothing like that crap you buy from the store. "real" chicken tastes nothing like that crap, it actually has flavor like a wild bird. We haven't bought chicken from the store in years, we are not into eating meat that is raised on eating their own feces. 60% of the chicken feed most of these companies use is chicken poo. We buy ours from a guy who lives next door to my gramps up in Hale. We usually run up once a month and buy a dozen birds for $30. Now I would like to get off store bought beef all together. My grandfather raised black Angus the right way up until this year, but now is too old to put in all the work, so I have to look elsewhere. Also thinking about turning an extra room we have on our bottom floor into a grow room to grow certain veggies year round. I don't want my kids growing up eating all the cancer giving crap we are.
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Post by SPLASH on Jun 14, 2011 22:52:43 GMT -5
30 bucks for a dozen birds? Let me know next time you are going up there. I'd like to place an order if you don't mind. As for the grow room........... Have you looked into the costs in hydroponics? I see 2 downfalls to hydroponic growing, the cost and flavor. No matter what lights you get, it will never taste like fruits and vegetables that were grown outside, but it's not any worse of flavor lacking than what's in the store during the winter. Most tomatoes sold in the stores during winter come from grow houses is in Canada. No flavor at all, but definitely safer to grow your own hydroponically. As for the beef, I haven't found any reasonable prices online for organically raised. The point made in the movie was that meat from 100 cows is in (I believe they said) a 2# package of ground beef. The cows are fed mainly corn which would kill them if it wasn't for the antibiotics and other chemicals they are given. With that said, the movie only showed 2 cows disfigured and sick to the point they couldn't walk and were pushed with a forklift to slaughter. You know damn well there are thousands in that condition we are eating. No wonder diseases, bacterial issues, and obesity (not a disease in my eyes) are at an alltime high in this country. What about the Mexican family in the movie? They showed how they can buy fast food cheaper for the family than they can vegetables, much less organically grown vegetables. It's Government to blame on this all the way. I really wish my Grandfather and his siblings never sold the farm/land they grew up on in Durand. If they hadn't I would take my gardening hobby quite further and go into farming. Not all corn or soy beans (which by the way are all gentically modified thanks to the company that invented the roundup resistent seed, so that means we eat chemically born bean) like most farmers looking to make a buck in this crooked system our Government almost enforces them to play in. I would do a 100% organic produce farm. There is finally a market and promise for financial reward as we saw in the movie since even the worst corporation in the world walmart is now buying and selling organic produce. I really wish atleast one member here would watch the movie and post here about how it changed the way they look at our food. If they would take our words for it and watch they would have to be blind not to change the way they look at our food. I'm serious about wanting to get chickens through you. Have you looked into videos from the guy from Polyface farms? The guy is fighting the good fight and I would LOVE to have the oportunity to do the same here in Michigan.
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Post by OJ (Original Junkie). on Jun 15, 2011 14:49:24 GMT -5
I haven't yet, but I will check them out. Yeah we will probably run up and get more birds about mid July. Yeah he treats us right on the price because I have helped him out a ton over the years with certain things. I agree growing indoors will never taste like the ones from the garden, but my chance of obtaining e. coli or some other crap is nil from produce I grow myself. Do you know how many mild cases of e. coli and salmonella are contracted by Americans everyday from our improperly manufactured food, thousands of cases a day, but most are just chalked up as upset stomachs from something else. Kind of scary.
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Post by SPLASH on Jun 15, 2011 16:54:35 GMT -5
I agree, much safer. Let me know ahead of time when you go on a chicken run.
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Post by SPLASH on Nov 7, 2011 18:26:39 GMT -5
thought I'd bump this back up to the top. Anyone heard about the controversy over the "McRib" from McDonalds? Humane groups are attacking them because more undercover video has come from Smithfield farms which supplies McDonalds all their McRib meat. That is something you can look up if you care to, but I read an article about what's in the McRib. 34 ingredients (including the bun) and many are not healthy, but one of them really stands out. It is a flour bleaching agent most commonly used in plastics for Yoga mats and tennis shoes. Now that the McRib is back, maybe you should read up on this stuff.
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Post by ScoutB on Nov 7, 2011 21:37:21 GMT -5
I reread some of this thread and thought you guys might like this. www.baronfarms.com/ This farm is owned and operated by my sister and brother-in-law. It's too damn bad we're way outside of their shipping zone. I've never actually tried their beef because they started this venture shortly after my last visit out there. It's a long way to go for a good steak.
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Post by SPLASH on Nov 7, 2011 21:43:06 GMT -5
I'll look into it more later when you are all gone and I'm bored, but seeing "Grass fed beef, pastured pork" was all I needed to see to know they are on the right track. The youtube link I have on the first post is no longer. The movie gets posted on there from time to time and only lasts a few days before it is erased. Wish you guys would take our word for it and watch it.
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Post by ScoutB on Nov 7, 2011 21:54:25 GMT -5
My son is living here with us for a while until he gets a job and back on his feet. I think he's trying to download the entire internet and the bandwidth he leaves me is just enough to watch a 5 minute Youtube video in 20 minutes. I can't imagine how long it would take to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie.
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Post by SPLASH on Nov 7, 2011 21:57:47 GMT -5
So much i could say ;D
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Post by ScoutB on Nov 7, 2011 22:13:35 GMT -5
Trust me, I've already said it.
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Post by SPLASH on Nov 30, 2011 15:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by arrowone on Nov 30, 2011 15:49:48 GMT -5
there is a store in clare just off of 10 and old 27 that is run by the amish and they sell there meats and chickens there very good prices when compared to grocery stores and what you are getting
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